Agenda WED OCT 25

  • Additional Claim Types
    • Cause-and-Effect
    • Evaulative
      • Comparative
      • Quality
      • Contrast
    • Persuasive
      • Dissuasive
      • Warning
    • Ethical or Moral
    • Proposal or Imperative
    •  Insinuation, Implication
    • In-class Claims Exercise
  • The Opposite of a Black Sneaker
  • White Paper: Why We Still Have Polio

13 Responses to Agenda WED OCT 25

  1. thebeard1 says:

    – Sentence that is a claim could actually be multiple claims
    – Claims can be cause-and-effect
    – They can also be evaluative, persuasive, ethical or moral, proposal or imperative, insinuation,
    – Evaluative – comparative, quality, contrast
    – Persuasive – dissuasive, warning
    – “Injuries occur…” -factual
    – “Unsafe use of table saws…” – causal


  2. jadden14 says:

    Causal Claim: Claim, Evaluation, proposal
    If a claim is factual, make sure there is evidence to back it
    Evaluative Claim: Comparative, Quality, Constrast
    Persuasive Claim:Dissuasive, Warning
    There can be more than two sides to an argument
    White Paper
    1.collect sources sources
    3.write about sources as I read them
    4. write organized essay
    7.endlessly revise


  3. killroy513 says:

    The claim can be anything, but the proof is the important part.
    Cause and effect, Evaluative, Persuasive, Ethical or moral, Proposal or imperative, ect.


  4. neweditionlover says:

    GM morning of 10/25/2017 professor discussed that the class was a little unprepared with our “Safer Saw Post” because for claims most used fact or opinion. Don’t include all claims that may contradict your claim. Claims can be cause and effect, evaluative,-comparative,quality,contrast Persuasive-dissuasive or warning, ethical or moral, proposal or imperative,insinuation,implication. In class interaction on Safer Saws claims .White Paper -summarize sections on whats important and some sense of whats going on with our 3,000 word research paper


  5. plethoragaming says:

    Try to be careful with using others claims for your own uses.

    Claims can be refuted, however basic knowledge claims should not be refuted unless there are several good facts.

    Claims can be cause and effect, evaluative, persuasive, ethical/moral, proposal/imperative, insinuation/implication

    There are several sides to an argument, not just 2


  6. 11collegegirl says:

    – be careful with factual claims
    – the claim may fail because the author may not provide evidence to support it
    – only way to disagree with a factual claim is by backing it up with evidence
    – claims can be causal, evaluative (comparative, quality, contrast) factual, opinion based, persuasive/ dissuasive/ warning, ethical or moral, proposal or imperative, insinuation/ implication, In class claims and exercise


  7. flyerfan1974 says:

    -Claims may be several claims
    -A single claim can be described in many different ways
    -You need some evidence to refute a claim
    – Claims can be cause and effect, evaluative, persuasive, ethical or moral, proposal or imperative, insinuation, implication
    -An evaluative claim can be comparative, quality, and contrast
    -A persuasive claim can be dissuasive


  8. lifeissublime13 says:

    A claim is not a fact that is true or false; it can be an opinion, argument, or something stated that is counterintuitive. Causal claims are opinions and proposals.
    Make sure not to add a lot of claims that might disclaim your claims. They can hurt your argument and skew the purpose of the paper.
    Claims can be factual, that’s rare. Facts require selection, characterization, interpretation, and to be placed in context.
    When a claim fails its because the author does not add evidence to support it. You just need a little bit of evidence to support it.
    Types of claims:
    ~Cause and effect
    There are more than 2 sides to an argument, there are many.
    Anything that is obvious is never right.
    Make sure to clarify your points so the audience can fully understand what you want them to absorb from your paper.


  9. theadmiral1 says:

    Comp notes 10/25/17

    Facts require selection, characterization, interpretation, and context.
    Truly factual claims are quite rare
    It’s quite common to refute the claim based on lack of evidence
    It’s rare for a claim to always carry its own evidence
    If you have a reason to refute a claim, then it needs to carry its evidence
    “if you are playing poker and it is time to show cards, and your opponent has absolutely nothing, do you get to claim the pot?”
    You have to prove that you have the better hand to take the pot.
    You have to show something
    All you have to do to refute a factual claim is to provide a fact of your own
    Claims can be causal
    Claims can evaluate
    These claims can be
    Claims can bet persuasive
    These claims can be
    Safety and unsafety are things that need evaluation
    “Something should occur” “something has to happen” are examples of ethical claims
    Claims can be proposals
    Claims can be rhetorical, or insinuated, or implied
    How many sides are there to an argument?
    That is irrational
    There can be an infinite amount of proposals


  10. alaska38 says:

    If the author doesn’t give evidence to support their claim then any evidence you give can repute the claim.
    Claims could be cause and effect, evaluation, ethical, persuasive, proposal, or implication.
    Evaluations can be comparative or have contrast. Persuasive can be dissuasive or a warning.


  11. todayistheday19 says:

    Other claims besides fact or opinion. A statement can have several claims. You don’t want to share a source’s claim that is opposite to your own. Every claim doesn’t need to have evidence to prove it. The only reason to dispute it, is to have your own evidence that packs your disapproval. To dispute factual claim you only need to show a little more evidence against it.
    Causal claim: one thing causes something else.
    Persuasive: based on moral imperatives
    Ethical: showing moral/ethical ties
    Proposal or imperative: declaring something
    Insinuation or implication: underlying
    Evaluating Rainbow987’s Safer Saws post
    Opposite of black sneakers ?
    White sneaker? White sock? Barefoot? Broccoli ?
    Describing range of possibilities by being distinct. Painting picture in readers eyes. Dividing world into simple yes or no catergories doesn’t help with outlook.
    White paper
    Shows progression. Write to find out what we are thinking. No thinking without writing.


  12. theintern50 says:

    -When writing an essay there are so many claims to be made but you must show proof
    -Having evidence to back up your claims is a necessity.
    -There many different claims to be made like ethical, proposal, persuasive, contrast, or comparative


  13. yoshi189 says:

    Different ways to describe claims:
    -Cause and Effect
    -Evaluative- Comparative, Quality, Contrast
    -Persuasive- Dissuasive, Warning
    -Ethical or Moral
    -Proposal or Imperative
    Don’t accidentally include claims contrary to your own purpose.
    Not every claim has its evidence
    Evaluate classmates safer saw
    More than 2 sides to an argument
    Obvious is never right
    Clarify your points so the audience
    White paper


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